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. these children are our children, and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the politics. >> the president speaking there of his grief, sharing his feelings as a father as well as a president. as the nation reels from the shock and grief of this unthinkable crime, with young children as the most tragic victims and witnesses. >> well, when i was out in the hall when like everybody hurried. the bullets, they like went into a total panic. >> and how are you doing? what went on in your head as this was happening. >> whoa. >> a small and brave boy's account of this utter horror. the more chilling to know that 18 of his young classmates were killed on this day. let's go now to our justice correspondent pete williams who joins us from washington. pete, what is the latest and what can you tell us about this gunman's identity? >> well, you know, we thought we knew it earlier in the day. we had been told and a number of other news organizations had been told by several different law enforcement agencies and officials that the name
with the white house. there are things that could be done by executive action. let's watch. >> somebody said to me, well, it's a republican issue. let me tell you it's not a republican issue. if i remember my history, the first two years of the last obama administration congress and the senate and the white house were all in the hands of the democrats, and they did nothing, so spare me that it's only the democrats. >> perhaps the mayor is forgetting that you need 60 votes in the senate to get anything done, but be that as it may, his point is well taken. we all have a responsibility now to go forward to get something done, and it should be bipartisan, and i think it can be. whatever the president can do by executive or administrative direction, high pressure that he will do. i also think we all have a responsibility to tell the children that we did everything in our power to protect them, and i think this is different. for some reason it's different. children die all the time in ener cities and the rest. it's always tragic. somehow or other this has pushed it all over the top, and i think th
with his call to have action now. >> since i've been president, this is the fourth time we have come together to comfort a grieving community torn apart by mass shootings. fourth time we have hugged survivors. the fourth time we have consoled the families of victims. we can't tolerate this anymore. these tragedies must end. and to end them, we must change. we will be told that the causes of such violence are complexed and that is true. no single law, no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or present every senseless act of violence in our society. but that can't be an excuse for inaction. surely we can do better than this. >> that moment is what the "washington post" is calling president obama's enough is enough speech. joining me now, now by the way a consultant to mayors against illegal guns. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, tamron. >> our article is why we wanted you on as a guest here. you said the only thing i experienced similar to this moment was the oklahoma city bombing where another american killed scores of people and you referred to this and used the word
are behind them. and there's no question that people are behind decisive action now. >> congressman courtney, you sat in that room last night and i know what it is to be among people that have lost something for no reason. but i couldn't imagine 20 caskets with 4-year-olds to 10 years old. i went through that one time this year with a 4-year-old. i mean, when americans are seeing children being buried, how does any of us walk away without feeling compelled to do something, no matter how cynical or no matter how much we've given up? >> when the president did the role call of the children's names and the reaction in the room, i've been to a number of funerals in my day, as well, reverend. and i've never experienced anything as raw and just agonizing as listening to the response that was happening, again, all over that auditorium. you know, i was telling john this morning, i was driving through the back roads in connecticut this morning on the way to the airport and i drove by a number of schools in my district. and at every single one of them, there was a police cruiser stationed outside the e
state, that we need action, and people say, well, it has to be comprehensive, and, sure, it has to be comprehensive, but there are certain things we can do right away. we could get rid of assault rifles. we can get rid of magazines that have more than ten bullets in them. had this guy been limited to a magazine clip that had ten bullets, nearly half those children would survive. it would wouldn't limb nature on incidents like this, but we can cut down on the carnage significantly. we can also close the gun show loophole. you know, it's shocking, alex, that 40% of the guns purchased in america are purchased without the buyer being subject to a background check. even nra members, 74% of nra members and 89% of all gun owners want background checks before anybody can get a gun, so the men and women in congress have to stiffen their backs, not be afraid of the organization the nra, because the members of the nra are better than the organization, and it's time for us to act finally once and for all. >> howard, your boss, mayor michael bloomberg, has been leading the charge on gun cont
to announce the actions it plans to take in the wake of the elementary school tragedy. the national rifle association breaking that silence for the first time yesterday saying it was prepared to make meaningful contributions to make sure this never happens again. the gun rights organization and gun rights advocates in congress both under public pressure to join the call for action. >> just wonder -- this long after a mass killing like that, little 6 and 7-year-olds, there is not a single republican in america, in elected office, not going to step up and say something? >> i think that says something in itself. >> i think it is time to talk, guys. one way or the other, where do you stand on this issue? >> joining me this morning is connecticut congressman joe courtney. good to have you here. the president is speaking in 45 minutes from now to announce this new interagency task force on gun control. he's not expected to announce any new specific gun regulation policy proposals, however, does this suggest to you that some serious policy is coming and coming soon? >> it does. the difference in
democrat in the house. made it clear the time for action is now. >> i think there's a better chance to do that now than ever. not that one child's life is more important than another person's life, but the volume, the impact of this that every child can feel vulnerable. the fact there's been so many events in close proximity and timewise to each other that this is almost a tipping point. >> it is a tipping point. democrats are looking to push a bill this week that would ban high-capacity magazines. like those used in newtown. it's not just the white house. it's not just congress. today there's major news out of michigan where the republican governor rick snyder has vetoed legislation that would allow concealed weapons in churches and schools and day care centers. new polls show support for stricter gun control is at a ten-year high. the company that owns the gun maker that produced the rifle used in last week's massacre plans to sell it. calling the shooting a quote, water shed event. and dick sporting goods has suspend the sale of modern sporting rifles in all of their change. this is ch
? why can't there be legislative action immediately if there's the desire of the people and overwhelming numbers show 57% if not higher asking americans if they want stricter gun controls, that i say yes. why does it have to be one or the other, mental health or some type of reasonable or sensible common sense ban on certain weapons? >> m-o-n-e-y. the republican party gets 80% or 90% of the money the nra dolls out to buy them and as a result it's always everything except for the gun but the reality is and people are smarter than this, there's always been mental illness. there's always been evil in our society. but what we now have is unrestricted access to military-style killing machines with bullets that were used to riddle the babies' bodies on friday. designed to maximize soft tissue damage. i mean, come on. and these members of congress look the other way and say it's everything but. they're just in the pocket of the nra and the democrats haven't been much better. we can get real substantive national gun laws that could save real people's lives and we can stop allowing congress to le
america up. and we're looking at this issue now, and we want action. >> okay, thank you so much, chief johnson. larry johnson, thank you, sir, for joining us as well, and thank you cliff van zandt. and chris jansing, my colleague at msnbc. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz picks up msnbc's continuing coverage of the sandy hook elementary school shooting right now. >>> good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. there are tragedies in life that shake our souls and break our hearts. today the nation experienced one of those tragedies. every american will struggle to come to grips with what happened today in a small community in connecticut. sandy hook elementary school in the small community of about 27,000 residents was the site of a shooting rampage. at this hour we know 26 people at the school were shot and killed by a lone gunman. 20 of those deceased were children. surviving students and their parents said teachers ordered children to hide in closets. witnesses reported hearing dozens of shots, as many as 100
tes tantntestant the reality when you look at the republican actions in particular, and the republican actions are polling 20% approval and the president is polling 50% approval, but the 20% approval is about the action on the cliff and not how they play in their individual districts. so when you travel around the country, and i have been to e tea party country in arizona, et cetera, there is a huge incentive for some of the more junior members of congress to stand their ground. it doesn't have to do with the fiscal math of the country, but it has to do with the electoral math of the home districts. >> and i think that she has put the finger on the thing that we are missing when we taub abolk this, because we act as if congress governs at a body with national interests and held accountable to national constituencies, but no, if it is game theory, each one of them is facing a different payoff structure in their own home constituen constituency. >> and it is skewed. first of all the tea party a minority, but the way that the republicans control the state governmentships and the state leg
to that on party principal. you have seen republican groups like heritage action and club for growth recommend a no vote on plan b. it's a big question whether john boehner has 218 votes to get the back up plan passed through the house. >> the plan b for people who are not familiar would raise taxes on incomes above $1 million, but does nothing to deal with the across the board spending cuts known as the sequester which we talked so much about, entitlement spending and provisions that the president brought up today. he pointed out laj cally the plan makes no sense when you look at what the republicans said they want to do, particularly attack spending cuts and spending in the country and does not address that. >> the timing is also very important too. this plan b that house speaker john boehner is proposing came after president obama made his biggest concessions in the cliskal cliff debate. as well as actually proposing adjustments to the cost of living adjustments to social security. both of which liberals were not happy about, but they were concessions none the less. then the republicans go
and vowed to take action. >> as i said earlier this week, i can't do it alone. i need your help. if we're going to succeed it will take a sustained effort for mothers and fathers, daughters and sons, law enforcement and responsible gun owners. >> with the president calling for concrete change by next month, there is already signs of republican resistance to his push for stronger gun control. >> what bothered me the most as a representative is how this has been politicized so quickly. >> do you dare come on my show and say i am using the slaughter of 20 little 6 and 7-year-old children? >> how many children do you have? >> joe, how many children do you have? >> i have four children, tim. answer my question. >> so do i and i refuse to let you say because you have children or anybody else that we need to actually politicize this. >> joining me now, delaware attorney general beau biden whose father vice president joe biden is leading the new task force and los angeles mayor and the current president of the u.s. conference of mayors and a member of the mayors against illegal guns and also j
comments, craig, of course, is that he called for meaningful action, regardless of the politics. what specifically does that mean, we'll have to wait and see. we'll probably get more information about that in the coming days. but i can tell you that this president has made it clear that he supports a ban on assault weapons. that, of course, expired back in 2004. he has also called for better background checks and called for better preventative measures, to try to keep weapons out of the hands of people who are mentally unstable. we are in contact with the white house, trying to determine if and when he will visit, but i would not be surprised if he made that trip. craig? >> the president is starting to get hammered. michael bloomberg yesterday basically saying that the president's rhetoric on gun control not enough. then there was congresswoman mccarthy, carol mccarthy from new york, who said yesterday, quote, the gloves are off if president obama fails to act on the issue. is the white house saying anything at all about some of the backlash that it's starting to get? >> reporter: wel
if he left behind anything that would explain his actions. but they tell us that there was no note, no letter, unlike some of the past school shootings where the people who committed them did leave detailed writings because they wanted people to know some message. >> and one other detail that struck me, you had a lockdown scenario in the school. he only visits this violence on two of the classrooms. other teachers and the other children were all locked down in their classrooms or other places. >> right. and we don't know why he chose those two classrooms. there was earlier misinformation that he chose the classroom where his mother taught kindergarten. this is something we still haven't nailed down. while it's clear she wasn't a full-time faculty member, there are people that say that at some time she volunteered at that school. >> but no other connection that he had to the school? >> not that we know of. >> thank you, pete, thank you for your reporting. >> you bet. >>> i want to turn now to connecticut governor danell malloy. i am profoundly sorry we are doing this interview this
be silent. through administrative action we must limit the proliferation of weapons and ammunitions that have no other purpose than to kill citizens. >> as the debate over gun control heats up, the newtown tragedy could be a new tipping point for some pro gun control lawmakers. >> reporter: the numbers are striking, 8,500 people die each year in gun violence. since columbine, nearly 14 years ago, more than 30 mass murders involving guns. the list is chilling. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside offices in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs that the sandy hook massacre has impacted capitol hill. >> as your senator i will protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator, joe manchin, a life-long nra member said he is rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: and former republican congressman, joe scarborough, now an msnbc host also reversed him
,000 young people have applied for basically deferred action, which means i ask the government not to deport me, to defer any action and we give them a work permit. people remember last august, at navy pier in chicago where 12,000 young people forward, and many of them have work permits and many more thousands every week. that's a step in the right direction. the problem is last week in chicago, there was a raid looking for a criminal. but they picked up 30 some odd workers at the plant and the very people that i came to my office, one of them was a person who had come to my office, with their children, the children got a work permit and now the government is working to deport their dad. they need their parents. i understand going after criminals, gang bangers, drug dealers people who do harm. but we are damaging so many families. >> you said earlier this month, the president was essentially missing on the issue of immigration reform. what did you mean about that? >> yeah, let me explain that, as we know, we have conversations and that is why i like live conversations, it's all listened to a
the other way. demint's decision means that the center of politician action in 2014 will be in the state of south carolina. three marquee statewide contests down there, two senate races and the governor's race. the fighting atmosphere of the palmetto state is legendary. throw in all of the state contests, the presidential primary season that kicks off very early in that state because it's early. and you've got yourself a humdinger down there. south carolina governor nikki haley does get the job of appointing demint's replacement who will serve until 2014 when there is a special election. she said yesterday she could make that decision within a week. among the names in the mix, congressman tim scott, former congressman barrett, henry mcmaster who was a candidate for governor in 2010, nathan ballentine and ted pitts. now many conservatives made it clear that they prefer tim scott and are bordering on strong-arming nikki haley, trying to box her into doing it after demint's announcement. look at the statement scott himself released. quote, looking forward. governor haley will now appoint a
? and as -- >> does that lend some kind of moral authority to the horrific actions, the wearing of a uniform of some kind? >> it may go along with some type of fantasy we have. you said wrap your arms around it. i have been trying to do that all day. how can anyone in their right mind or wrong mind justify the killing of children -- >> let's go to profile questions. the person shows up with two semiautomatic pistols have that 15 rounds each. so they're ready to shoot a lot of people. so it's hard to believe one thing led to another. the initial intent was to do a lot of horror. >> and when we're told over 100 rounds have been fired, do the math. that means about four or five magazines per weapon that he had to carry. so he would just dump one, reload, and keep -- >> is that hard to do? can you see the weapon get hot? >> no, no. >> a glock can be reloaded. >> if you're practicing, you put 15, 16 rounds, you dump the magazine, you put a new one up, and you go again. it can take two seconds and you're ready to go again. >> to add to the horror in this discussion, it's always going to be there in our mi
lanza. >> to see if he left anything that would explain his actions. but there was no note, unlike other shootings where the perpetrators did leave some idea of why. >> he only visits the violence on two of the classrooms, other teachers and the other children were all locked down in their classrooms or other places. >> and we don't know why he chose those two classrooms and there was some earlier misinformation that he chose a classroom where his mother taught kindergarten. this is a fact we have never nailed dale. but some say at some time in the past she did volunteer at that school. but as far as the connection to this school, we don't know. >> pete williams, thank you for your reporting. >> you bet. >>> i want to turn now to the governor dan malloy, welcome to "meet the press" i am profoundly sorry we have doing this interview this morning. can you describe the last 48 hours have been like? >> i got a call at our office that a shooting had taken place at a school here in newtown. once we understand at least a portion of what had happened, got in the car and proceeded down to newtown
and statements and bills and hearings, and actions. and hopefully, the momentum will build that you reach a tipping point where -- where it changes. where the number of people that are voting for -- to end gun violence are stronger than those who want to continue the nra policies of always trying to get more guns on the street as opposed >> and i think what we need now -- >> congresswoman maloney, i'm sorry. we are out of time. i want to thank the congresswoman and josh horowitz, both for being with us. >>> that's going to do it here live from connecticut. i'm chris jansing. nbc's coverage continues now. >>> good evening, american, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. there are tragedies in life that shake our souls and break our hearts. today, the nation experienced one of those tragedies. every american will struggle to come to grip it's with what happened today in a small community in connecticut. sandy hook elementary school and the small community of about 27,000 residents was the site of a shooting rampage. at this hour, we know 26 people at the school were shot and killed by
are concerned about groups like heritage action and the ones that say we were sent here to covvern. i'm going to look at going forward. it looks like we are leading towards going over the fiscal cliff. but do republicans get involved ip the negotiating and try to give him some cover and maybe move forward. obvious obviously, it is quite surprising to see this much of a divide with the house gop. luke did anything happen tonight to change the prospects of john boehner being speaker next year? >> because eric can tore was behind john boehner on this vote i'm leaning no. he has an element within his conference that would not be there in support of him if there is a viable alternative. if this was the final vote, we feel for the guy. but republicans, it is interesting, harry reid said this was a dance. they realize that too, there was no way forward for the bill. but the bhoener will get a lot of press in the next few days. >> luke russert thank you for your reporting there. >> ari, the republican started to realize something that everyone else had been saying about this. they started to realize,
? next month? next year? next what? and if not us, who in this world will demand action to protect americans? joining me now is u.s. senator dick durbin of illinois. i want to read something from you which is very impressive and it's in the op-ed pages of "the chicago tribune." quote, what holds us back are political organizes that are well-funded, well-organized, and determined to resist even reasonable limb tathss. there's a close political parallel between the gridlock in washington on dealing with our economy and national debt and the eerie silence in congress as the list of horrific gun crimes grows by the day. senator durbin, thank you. i know you have got a good heart on this as well as a good head about fiscal matters. what's wrong with the congress when it comes to protecting, ensuring the domestic tranquility? >> well, there's a legitimate concern about our second amendment, chris. you understand that part. but there's also a very strong political force that is trying to push forward, primarily for the dealers and manufacturers h an agenda that will sell more firearms and
on the president's call for congressional action early next year. >> i will be putting forward very specific proposals. i will be talking about them in my state of the union and we will be working with interested members of congress to try and get something done. >> vice president joe biden is leading the push to draft those proposals, and yesterday he began that effort, meeting with law enforcement officials and cabinet members. i want to go right to you, michael eric dyson. you saw as much of our audience did, this rather extraordinary address from the head of the nra. here we are. as i said, one week out from this mass murder, from this shooting, which the nation is still reeling from, and as i said, you can only describe it as combative, and one of the themes that really coursed throughout that address was that the problem is fake guns in movies and video games, not real guns in our schools. >> yeah. you are being very kind. i think menevolent at. it wasn't fake guns that killed these kids. they were real guns. they were semiautomatic weapon guns. they were clips and strips and drums tha
majority action and jared bernstein a senior fellow and an msnbc contributor. welcome to you both. jared, this plan b, it's not only an affront to what the president has been trying to do in terms of a balanced approach. it's also a colossal waste of time, isn't it? >> absolutely. i mean, i have been writing about this in terms of theatrics at a time when really nobody ought to be going to the theater. the fiscal cliff is way too close for this type of game playing and i just noted today that the gdp report for the third quarter got a little bit of a bump. it was marked up to 3.1%. we're actually making some progress on this economic recovery, but if we go over and stay over the cliff because of all this screwing around, forget about it. you're going to have that recovery go south very quickly. john boehner on monday looked like a guy who is willing to make a balanced compromise or at least consider one in the interest of the country. john boehner on wednesday looks like a guy who is looking out for his own skin over the benefit of the american people. >> ron, what's your view of the spe
action by the senate. >> the classic ping pong gridlock and no way out. >> it's important to know how far we have come in the last seven days. a week ago we were closer than we had seen before on a particular deal. john boehner made a big concession allowing tax cuts to rise on income over a million dollars. president obama countered with a big concession and saying that that should be $400,000 and have fixes to social security on costs of living adjustments on that. what ended up happening? john boehner retreated their plan b that mike viquiera was talking about that was unable to pass and now we are in the stalemate we are in now. we were closer than before. >> you touch on a good point. that's lost now in the media. we are going-over the cliff. last week they are $450 billion away from a deal. that's less than 1% of the federal spending over the next decade. in d.c. terms, 400 billion seems like a lot. that's a drop in the bucket in d.c. terms. it's amazing that small of a number killed a deal. >> if you are buying a house or a car and one person said look, i'm going at $1 billion. usu
would avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate if the senate will not approve and send them to the president to be signed into law in their current form. they must be amended and returned to the house. the house will take this action on whatever the senate can pass, but the senate must first act. the house has passed bills that would never pass the senate. speaker boehner's position is a joke. senate majority leader harry reid responded, house republicans pushed middle class families closer to the blip by wasting an entire week with their incompetent plan b stunt no further legislation can move through the senate until republicans drop their knee jerk obstruction. the house is literally phoning it in, tomorrow's conference call will reportedly include the entire caucus, not just republican leadership, the irony is that if we go over the cliff, the president will get whatever he wants on texas, and there's been a growing acknowledgement of this by some house and senate republicans. here's senator johnny isaacsohn of georgia. >> if we get down to
house telling nbc news they don't see something on the table that's actionable? >> brings you back to yesterday where we spent better part of the day debating whether or not or trying to figure out whether or not there was a deal that was offered by the white house based upon a senator's facebook post and again, was was there a meeting, in the a meeting going back whether or not that -- members of congress meet the president today. that's where we are right now. we just don't know just -- much of anything. though this deal if it is, in fact, true, is a sign of progress. and probably does indicate that maybe we are reach something sort of end game of the fiscal cliff. >> this 400,000 number, professor dyson, this is not the president's number. this is way past the red line. i'm not reporting that it is happening. but i am reporting that it is being floated as another republican offer. if -- i want to be clear. these things move around. maggie, ju just laughing at me. >> the season to be jolly. it is friday. >> yeah. if we can't part take in the jolly who among us can? professor dyso
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, especially with democrats action but look, that's not only thing people are talking about, there are concerns monday senators about the stances on israel, for example. it's quite interesting, because usually snort, they obvious support their colleagues overwhelmingly like i expect we'll see with senator john kerry when he eventually gets a confirmation vote. that is not the case is chuck hagel. there's no benefit of giving him the doubt. in this says lindsey graham has front and center opposing rice, now hesitating on chuck hagel as well. >>> since you brought up kerry here, he has been nominated to succeed hillary clinton. so if he is confirmed, fawn action what will happen to his senate seat? >> i think that's what the republicans are eyeing that seat with a bit of hope. it's not entirely clear that scott brown will be returning, but certainly it's an option that perhaps for the republicans to have an additional seat in the senate, but there's no guarantee of that? >> i want to pay a bit of sound here from ben affleck. >> one never knows. i'm not one to get into conjecture. i do have a grea
. >> there are republicans who don't want to vote for any tax increase. that's timied actions here. in the senate, i heard senator mcconnell that the november election -- that isn't true. the president was out there clearly saying there should be a continuation of the middle-class tax cuts, but not for the upper 2%, adding unemployment insurance. so essentially there's a stymie, a blockade by republicans who really don't want anything to happen that relates to tax rates. >> sir, you said you're disappointed. the huffington post is out where this new piece on product activity. we always hear the phrase the do-nothing congress, referring back to the 1940s, but side by side, 219 bills have been signed during this latest legislative body, and the 104th had 333 bills signed, so they are the do-nothing congress getting a bad rap comparatively. are the american people just supposed to sit by and expect this? because that's the way it is, the american people's hands are hogtied to whatever you guys want to do and whether you can get your act together. >> i don't think the american people should be silent. for exa
the international community. joining us from beijing with re action from china, universally condemned. >> reporter: hello, andrea. well, a short while ago we heard from north korea that this new satellite has started broadcasting revolutionary songs, the songs of kim il-song and mission control there was great excitement at this. the rest of the world, is, of course, somewhat less enthralled and even china, the ally and economic partner of pyongyang had some pretty blunt language today. now, this isn't the first time that china has been critical of north korea, but they rarely react in such blunt terms. you will recall that only a short while ago they were describing the relationship with north korea as being like lips and teeth, well, that's really no longer the case. the question now, of course, is what china will do about it. they were pretty clear today they were not about to start supporting u.n. sanctions against the north, but we have a new leadership here, and there are signs he may be less indulgent of north korea, less indulgent of a nation which officials here privately have likened to
, and as those killed in newtown are laid to rest, now is the time for action. >> that's the picture. that's the emotion that will pull this thing. >> the voices of reason cannot be silenced. >> record sales of these firearms. >> they advertise armor-piercing bullets. >> enough is enough. >> an ak-15, i'm not sure we need that. >> assault weapons account for less than 2% of the murders in this country. if you're in that 2%, you know, believe me, i understand that. >> do they want to be saying two years from now, which they will, and four years from now, as the party of glocks. >> the second amendment culture has been totally captured by extremists. >> i heard the governor of texas today wants every teacher to have a gun. >> you should be able to carry your handgun anywhere in this state. [ cheers and applause ] >> enough is enough. we begin as newtown, connecticut, memorializes more of its innocent victims. even as some children return to school, they are passing by the funeral processions of children their own age. this afternoon wakes are being held for 27-year-old first grade teacher vi
. talk about that a little bit. we're only six days away. are you surprised by the lack of action here in washington on the fiscal cliff considering the dire implications for a lot of budgets in cities around america? >> actually, look, i am surprised. been around the block just a couple times. i've seen different things in the past, but this is very serious business, and apparently some members of congress just don't get it. the -- you can call it whatever you want to call it, but certainly fiscal is in front of it and it's not good. taxes going up for all americans, not a good thing. significant, possibly devastating budget cuts coming down to certainly state and local governments, not a good thing. and so this seemingly bad game of chicken, you know, this is not some schoolyard game here. this is about people's lives, it's about their livelihoods, it's about the future of cities, it's about programs that need the dollars to provide services that the citizens want and expect is lack of doing your job. and so congress, it seems to me, should be flying, literally, back into session to
about the need for meaningful action, saying that it is necessary regardless of the politics. he didn't go into any details today. i expect that in the coming days and weeks we will learn a little more about what specifically he meant by meaningful action. i can tell you the last time he really talked about gun control and this type of issue were in the days after that horrific shooting in aurora, colorado. the president delivering a speech to the urban league. i'm just going to read you a little portion of that speech, chris, because it fleshz out i think some of what was behind his words today. the president saying he believes in the second amendment but "i also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that ak-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals, that they belong on the battlefield of war and not on the streets of our cities. i believe the majority of gun owners would agree that we should do everything possible to prevent criminals and fugitives from purchasing weapons, that we should check someone's criminal record before they can check out a gun
together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. >> as much as we think of this issue as a political untouchable, not the tragedy itself, but policy to prevent yet another tragedy like this. as much as we think of this as a subject that cannot be discussed in washington, president obama has spoken to this issue before today. he has been called to speak to it mostly in response to tragedies like today. but when you look at his remarks combined over time in full, it's just a remarkable chronicle of not just what he has said. what he said must be done. but it is a remarkable chronicle of what has not yet been done. >> it is part of our nature to demand explanations, to try to impose some order on the chaos, to make sense out of that which seems senseless. already we've seen the national conversation commence, not only about the motivations behind these killings, but about everything from the merits of gun safety laws to the adequacy of our mental health system. and much -- much of this process of debating what might be done to prevent
. it is not the outcome that i wanted. that was the will of the house. unless the president and congress take action, tax rates will go up on every american taxpayer and devastating defense cuts will go into effect in ten days. the house has already passed bills addressing the fiscal cliff. passed a bill and replacing the president's sequester with responsible spending cuts and did it last may. we passed a bill to stop all the tax hikes on the american people scheduled to take effect january the 1st and we did that on august 1st. and we propose plans over and over again, the democrats used to support and now they won't. i don't want taxes to go up. republicans don't want taxes to go up. we only run the house. democrats continue to run washington. what the president has proposed so far simply won't do anything to solve our spending problem. he wants more spending and more tax hikes that will hurt our economy and he simply won't deal honestly with entitlement reform and the big issues facing our country. we need significant spending cuts and real tax reform to address our long-term debt problem and pave th
and the democratic line on medicare. tom perriello from the center of american progress action fund on how democrats can deal with republicans who can't deal with reality. rubio and ryan reload with a new message for the middle class. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. >> but there is no escaping their own policies. >> we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. >> dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz responds tonight. plus, senator barbara boxer on her new plan for national polling place standards. and a new poll shows half of all republicans think the defunct group a.c.o.r.n. stole the election from president obama. >> that's an eye opener. >> i wonder where they ever got that idea? >> you just have to wait and see what happens. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. here is are the latest. republicans are at a stalemate with the white house for debt negotiations. republicans really only have two options now, bad and worse. "the new york times" is the latest outlet to report on senior republican leaders who are read
in 2010, point out, launched heritage action, 501-c3 which is renting the floor space in the rest of the heritage building and has been aggressively campaigning. during the congressional voting season against republicans, getting them to vote their way on various bills. irritating a lot of people. a lot of libertarians. a lot of moderates. this signals they're going to step that up. it's perfect for demint who has always done this. you haven't mentioned his legislation in your intro because he wasn't much of a legislator. he passed one bill that renamed a courthouse. he had stuff added to other bills. his strategy was to really slowly replace senators over the course of many years. that's what he'll do from the outside. >> right. he didn't so much create legislation as he created legislators. >> right. >> one thing here, his term if i'm not wrong, goes until 2016. it's somewhat atypical for senators to leave in the middle. being in the minority in the modern senate is not super fun and so it's hard to escape the impression here that a minority status that jim demint helped create
the dogs quickly. >>> a maryland homeowner literally saw armed robbers in action but this is not your normal couple. the armed robbery, i guess you could say, was all caught on tape. they avoided the naughty list by later returning frosty. thank goodness. >>> finally, folks in the nation's capitol showed the holiday season is in full swing. standing near the national tree and just south of the white house the national menorah was lit sunday evening to celebrate hanukkah. the jewish holiday also known as the eight day of lights began at sun down on saturday night. >>> in sports now, sunday night football right here on nbc. lions/packers with snow falling at green bay's lambeau field, detroit got out to an early lead. quarterback matthew stafford had trouble holding on to that slippery football. the packers turned it into a touchdown. there he goes, there he goes, there he goes, to go on to beat the lines, 27-20. >>> quarterback eli manning threw for three touchdowns. they won 52-27. >>> in other action, washington quarterback robert griffin iii sprained his knee but the redskins beat b
of the national action network and senior pastor of the historic king solomon baptist church in detroit. thank you, all three for joining me tonight. >> great to be with you. >> thank you. >> congressman peters, let me start with you. the governor snyder has signed this bill. now, what's the next step? >> this is absolutely outrageous. what we've seen in the last hours. compete about face from a governor who said this should not be part of the agenda. and to do this without any hearings. then what i think is particularly outrageous. the next step is we could have gone to a referendum. put it on the ballot for the voters to make a decision. particularly in a state like michigan which has been the center of the labor movement from the very beginning. instead they did a very tricky maneuv maneuver. they put a small appropriation on that bill. you can't go to a referendum. we have democrats that would be joining the state house. they weren't going to pass it in the new legislature, so they jammed it through here and put something in to make it difficult to have a referendum. it is certainly not over.
will be laid to rest, including teacher victoria soto. >> whatever actions they took to divert his attention, i'm sure they're the ones that responsible for her being here with us today. >> reporter: while this grieving community continues to remember and mourn the 26 who are not. >> there's no words. >> just deep sadness. just like -- just right down to the middle of all of us. >> reporter: grief counselors and extra security teams were at schools as class resumed in k w newto newtown, tuesday. sandy hook elementary has been closed. it's not clear when students will restart school, when they do, the classrooms will look the same as they did before the attack at monroe elementary. still everyone here knows they will never be the same. 20 friends, teammates, brothers and sisters will always be missing. jay gray, nbc news, newtown, connecticut. >>> now for a look at the weather including that winter storm making its way east, here is nbc meteorologist bill karins. good morning. >>> good morning. this storm will cause a lot of headaches. schools will be canceled in some cases. airports will have
, conservative groups have already condemned his harder bargain. heritage action called it the grand capitulation. republicans rm urged not to concede on the debt ceiling. mean whooit on the left, the huffington post, there's a headline condemning obama's raw deal saying the president's offer targets the middle class and the elderly. it's the cpi index they're taking issue with. the way you used to be able to get a deal done in washington is quote/unquote if both sides complained. that means there was equal pain. the question is if that still applies today. we'll see. there has to be some movement here. is the threshold going to get moved up? how will the rank and file respond to speaker bain they are morning? he's not presenting them any plan, but when the update is done. and what happens? where are senate republicans? some of them are in a sour place. when do they decide to launch their quote/unquote plan bs, which would extend tax rates up to 250,000 and punt everything else? we'll see. the next 24 hours are everything. they have to get a deal, a framework in place to avoid any sort of punt. >
aide, they felt it's up to the democrats to act now. so the christmas spirit has not softened actions. but what has softened? customer confidence. in the last week gallup found the drop in the likelihood congress will come to a deal. also holiday spending hit its lowest rate since the 2008 recession. while the president said before he left for hawaii that he said he hoped the holiday would give them a chance to cool off and reach an agreement, it appears republicans would prefer to stay home for the holidays. merry christmas, everybody. for more on this, joining us now from washington, we have contributor jared bernstein. also a senior fellow on budget and policy priorities. and a former economist for vice president joe biden. and of course nbc's luke russert. luke, i'm starting with you. we just got a statement from speaker boehner and the house leaders. and shock. they are putting it back on the senate. tell us about the statement and where it's going from here. >> it's a fascinating ping-pong match right now. but really with the senate, john boehner, eric cantor with mccarthy and m
came out to the national action network feeds the homeless and seniors and we stood together and said despite or differences, we agree on banning assault weapons, and we agree that there must be gun control, hoping to use that as a model, saying that there must be bipartisan agreement about gun control in washington. if we can get unlikely people to stand together, we can maybe lead to some sane gun policies in this country. >> certainly you're no stranger to end the fight to gun violence, but when we talk about what you're trying to do next month, what are your hopes there? >> my hopes are to raise with the teachers, randy weingarten of the federation of teachers, all talking about how we raise the point when mr. lapierre and the nra had the opportunity to say let us deal with some sane gun policies, let's talk about how people don't need a magazine with 100 rounds in it, that's notself defense, that's not hunting. and how we can back up -- yes, people have a right to protect their family, but you don't need all of this to protect your family. he did the opposite. he said let's put a
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